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Book

Bright Lights, Big City / Girl in a Band / Meet Me in the Bathroom / Behind the Velvet Rope / The Dad Rock That Made Me a Woman

Play

Suburbia

Song

God Moving Over the Face of the Waters / When It's Cold, I'd like to Die / I'm Not Like Everybody Else / Ski Bunny / Chocolate / Sunday Routine / Cotton Crown / Drunken Butterfly / Swimsuit Issue / Tunic (Song for Karen) / Guess / Tick / Date with the Knight / Black Tongue / Alone / Maps / Rich / Pin / Why Control / Our Time / They Don't Love You Like I Love You / Only Happy When It Rains / Bang / Art Star / The Public Hanging of a Movie Star / Wolf Like Me / Heads Will Roll / This Modern Love / Cheated Hearts

Album

Everything Is Wrong / Something Beautiful / White Out / Brood X / Sister / Dirty / Goo / Fever To Tell / Show Your Bones / It's Blitz

Movie

Heat / Suburbia

Person

Nora Princiotti / Nathan Hubbard / Miley Cyrus / Jay McInerney / Moby / Robert De Niro / Al Pacino / Justin Sales / Christina Martinez / Jon Spencer / Jefferson Davis Hogg / Waylon Jennings / PJ Harvey / Courtney Love / Peaches / Thurston Moore / Kim Gordon / Karen Lee Orzallek / Karen O / Lizzie Goodman / Rob Harvilla / Elton John / Angus Andrew / Brian Feldman / Shirley Manson / Shirley Patricia Ann Manson / Nick Zinner / Brian Chase / Stuart Lepton / Liz Phair / Lena Dunham / Rhiannon Giddens / William Goldman / Mark Cohen / Eric Bagozian / Thomas Honorado / Jalilel Bunton / Dave Sitek / Suzie Soo / Patti Smith / Neil Young / Jeff Mangum / Joe Levy / Berner Turner / Nico Strauss / Olivia Creery / Jonathan Kermah / Bobby Wagner

Studio

The Ringer / Geffen Records / Spotify / CBS / ANZ / Specsavers

Podcast

60 Songs that Explained the 90s

TV Show

The Sopranos / The Dukes of Hazzard

Band/Artist

Hannah Montana / Boss Hog / Pussy Galore / Sonic Youth / Nirvana / Yeah Yeah Yeahs / The Strokes / The White Stripes / Interpol / The Hives / TV on the Radio / LCD Soundsystem / The Rapture / The Walkmen / The Killers / Kings of Leon / Vampire Weekend / Garbage / No Face / Jonathan Fire*Eater / The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion / Kraftwerk / Liars / Neutral Milk Hotel / Block Party / Spoon / Ted Leo / Michelle Branch / Vanessa Carlton / Pearl Jam

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insights

  • The duality of Karen O - The hosts discuss the contrast between Karen O's wild stage persona and her reportedly shy offstage personality. They analyze this duality as a key element of her appeal. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

  • The importance of vulnerability in music - Nico highlights the genuine earnestness of "Maps" and contrasts it with the perceived fakeness of much indie rock at the time. This vulnerability, he argues, is what makes the song so resonant. - Nico Strauss

  • The role of a female artist in a male-dominated genre - Nico and Rob discuss Karen O's impact as a female artist in the male-dominated early 2000s rock scene, highlighting her captivating stage presence and the influence it had on other women. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

  • Yeah Yeah Yeahs' sonic experimentation and longevity - The hosts discuss how the Yeah Yeah Yeahs' willingness to experiment musically, particularly with the album *It's Blitz*, contributed to their staying power compared to bands with more consistent sounds. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

deep dives

  • Karen O's stage presence and influence - Extended discussion on Karen O's early volatile stage presence, her influences, and her role in the NYC rock revival. Comparison to other artists like PJ Harvey, Kurt Cobain, Courtney Love, and her impact on female representation in rock music. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

  • The making of and impact of "Maps" - Detailed analysis of the song's creation, its emotional resonance, its place within the album "Fever to Tell", its influence on other songs like "Since U Been Gone", and its legacy as a both a rock and pop anthem. Discussion about the song's video and the crying scene. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

  • The NYC Rock Revival of the early 2000s - Extensive discussion about the NYC rock scene in the early 2000s, including bands like The Strokes, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, TV on the Radio, LCD Soundsystem, and others. The hosts discuss the scene's ethos, its key players, and its evolution. Mentions of the book "Meet Me in the Bathroom" and the impact of venues like Mercury Lounge. The debated questions of rock's alleged death and subsequent revival. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

most debated

  • Dad Rock classification of Yeah Yeah Yeahs/Maps - Nico Strauss argues that Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and "Maps" specifically, possess qualities of dad rock, despite not being typically categorized as such. He highlights the song's earnestness and vulnerability as key elements. - Rob Harvilla, Nico Strauss

  • "Maps" as an anagram - Rob debates the popular theory that "Maps" is an anagram for "My Angus, Please Stay," citing a blogger who suggests it's a Wikipedia loop of misinformation. - Rob Harvilla

funny moments

  • Rob's height insecurity regarding Angus Andrew - Rob jokes about disliking Angus Andrew (Karen O's boyfriend and Liars frontman) because he's taller than him. - Rob Harvilla

  • Rob misinterpreting Boss Hogg lyrics - Rob mishears lyrics in the Boss Hog song "Chocolate" and humorously speculates about their meaning. - Rob Harvilla

  • Wikipedia misinformation - Rob expresses frustration with Wikipedia's inaccuracies and contemplates quitting the internet. - Rob Harvilla

  • The "Maybe Maybe Maybes" - The host recounts the anecdote about the Yeah Yeah Yeahs being called the "Maybe Maybe Maybes" due to their tendency to cancel shows, finding it humorous and representative of their volatile nature. - Rob Harvilla

personal connections

  • College memories - Rob shares a personal anecdote about reading Bright Lights, Big City and listening to Moby in college, and the intense emotional reaction it provoked. He also talks about a subsequent experience with his girlfriend and the Boss Hog cover of "I'm Not Like Everybody Else." - Rob Harvilla

  • Nico's connection to "Maps" - Nico explains how listening to "Maps" in his youth, while living in the remote Yukon, made him yearn for a more vibrant and artistic environment like Brooklyn. - Nico Strauss

  • Rob's experience seeing Yeah Yeah Yeahs at Radio City Music Hall - Rob contrasts this experience with the legendary Mercury Lounge debut, highlighting the difference between witnessing history and experiencing a band after their myth has been established. - Rob Harvilla