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Out For Justice > The Rewatchables

Album

License to Ill

Band/Artist

Beastie Boys / Cool JT

Book

Death of a Salesman

Movie

40 Year Old Virgin / 48 Hours / Above the Law / Animal Instincts / Bad Boys / Beauty and the Beast / Bestseller / Body of Influence / Boogie Nights / City Slicker / Cobra / Crimes and Misdemeanors / Dick Tracy / Dirty Dancing / Dumb and Dumber / Eddie and the Cruisers / Empire Strikes Back / Executive Decision / Face/Off / Forgetting Sarah Marshall / Full Metal Jacket / Glengarry Glen Ross / Goodfellas / Hard to Kill / Home Alone / Kiss of Death / Last Exit to Brooklyn / Lock Up / Mark for Death / Mirror Images 2 / Mission Impossible / Naked Gun / Out for Justice / Point Break / Raging Bull / Rambo / Return of the Jedi / Road to Perdition / Rocky / Rolling Thunder / Silence of the Lambs / Someone to Watch Over Me / Star Wars / Superbad / Teen Wolf / Terminator 2 / The Big Lebowski / The Color of Money / The Dark Knight / The Firm / The Fountain of Youth / The Rock / There's Something About Mary / Tommy Boy / Total Recall / Toy Soldiers / Under Siege

Person

Ariel Helwani / Arnold Schwarzenegger / Arthur Miller / Barney Cousins / Bill Simmons / Bob Odenkirk / Byron Mayo / Chris Collins / Chris Ryan / Christian Bale / Christopher Nolan / Craig Horlbeck / Curtis Lewa / Dana Carvey / Daniel Baldwin / Daniel Day Lewis / Daniel Plainview / Danny Trejo / David Caruso / David Chase / Dick Miller / Dion Waiters / Dominic Chianese / Doris Burke / Eddie Murphy / Frank Gore / Gene LaBelle / George Lucas / Gina Gershon / Goldberg / Gus Faraci / Harling Mays / Harold Letterman / Harrison Ford / Heath Ledger / Hulk Hogan / Jack Palance / James Caan / James Gandolfini / Jason Momoa / Jeff Van Gundy / Jerry Orbach / Joe House / Joe Montana / Joe Pesci / John Flynn / John Krasinski / John Leguizamo / Julianna Margulies / Kevin Costner / Kevin Nealon / Kristen Bell / Kyle Brandt / Luke Wilson / Marlon Brando / Mia Sara / Mike Greenberg / Mike Ovitz / Mike Tyson / Nelly / Nick Nolte / Paul Newman / Paul Sorvino / Pedro Martinez / Peter Schrager / Ray Liotta / Roberto Benigni / Sam Jackson / Sean Connery / Sean Fennessey / Sean Penn / Shannon Tweed / Shannon Wurry / Stan Van Gundy / Steven Seagal / Steven Spielberg / Sylvester Stallone / Tom Cruise / Tommy Lee Jones / Tony Romo / Ultimate Warrior / Walter Hill / Wayne Jenkins / Wilford Brimley / William Forsyth

Play

Death of a Salesman

Podcast

The Rewatchables / The Ringer Podcast Network

Song

No Sleep till Brooklyn / Paint It Black / Shake the Firm

Studio

Amazon Prime / Apple / Booking.com / ESPN / Fandango / HBO / NFL Network / Panadol Rapid / Ringer Podcast Network / State Farm / Warner Brothers / Westpac

TV Show

Boardwalk Empire / CSI Brooklyn / CSI Miami / ER / Good Morning Football / Law and Order / SNL / The Rewatchables / The Sopranos / The Truman Show

Behavioral Patterns

most debated

  • Steven Seagal's self-awareness - Bill posits that Segal was completely unaware of his maniacal ego and bad acting, comparing him to Arnold and Tyson who were self-aware. Kyle suggests Segal *landed* on his star persona and ran with it. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • Did Steven Seagal defecate himself when choked out by Gene LaBelle? - Kyle introduces the infamous story, and Bill expresses a strong desire to believe it, comparing it to the Richard Gere gerbil rumor. Producer Craig unequivocally states he believes it happened, while AI research provides a nuanced, unconfirmed answer. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt, Craig Horlbeck

  • Who would play Gino Felino better: Tom Hanks or Tom Cruise? - Bill argues Hanks would be too self-aware for the role's unintentional comedy, while Kyle notes Cruise's past struggles with accents. Craig is brought in as a tie-breaker and picks Cruise for his potential for unintentional humor. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt, Craig Horlbeck

  • The value of renting 'Out for Justice' for $3.99 - Bill complains about having to pay for the movie, wishing it was free on a streaming service. Kyle, having rewatched it, regrets *not buying* it for a slightly higher price, indicating its rewatch value to him. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

deep dives

  • Steven Seagal's ego, lack of self-awareness, and control on set - The hosts extensively dissect Seagal's behavior, including his inconsistent Italian accent, his alleged cutting of William Forsyth's scenes, his demands during an SNL Hans & Franz sketch (he insisted on beating them up), and his unique refusal to take any punches in fight scenes, comparing him to other action stars. (Estimated 15+ minutes) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • The pool hall fight scene ('Has anyone seen Richie?') - Both hosts declare this their favorite scene of Seagal's career and potentially their favorite movie scene ever. They analyze specific elements like the cue ball in the towel, Seagal's 'whose hot dog is this?' ad-lib, the distinct minor villains (Styx, Tattoo), the bounty being placed on Gino's head mid-fight, and its comparison to the Alec Baldwin scene in 'Glengarry Glen Ross'. (Estimated 10+ minutes) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • The 'Steven Seagal shitting on himself' story during filming - Kyle introduces a new category for this infamous anecdote, recounting how Seagal was allegedly choked unconscious by stunt coordinator Gene LaBelle and soiled himself. They spend significant time discussing the story's veracity, witness accounts, and compare it to other Hollywood urban legends, involving producer Craig in the discussion. (Estimated 10+ minutes) - Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck

  • The inauthenticity and absurdity of the baseball catch scene - Bill and Kyle meticulously break down the bizarre interaction between Gino Felino and his son. They highlight Seagal's awkward glove-holding, the peculiar dialogue ('You got the mitt, I got the ball, you got the bat. Let's go.'), and the implausible scenario of hitting grounders with one baseball. Kyle adds the detail of Seagal casually kicking his son in the ass. (Estimated 8 minutes) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt, Craig Horlbeck

  • William Forsyth's performance as Richie and Seagal's insecurity - The hosts heap praise on Forsyth's terrifying and captivating performance as the villain Richie. They discuss the well-known story of Seagal allegedly demanding that Forsyth's scenes be cut due to perceived upstaging, leading to the film's brevity and montages, drawing parallels to Ledger's Joker vs. Bale's Batman. (Estimated 7-8 minutes) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

childhood memories

  • Bill seeing 'Out for Justice' as his first R-rated movie in a theater with his dad - Bill recounts being 12 years old and seeing the film's violent soccer mom killing scene, which profoundly disturbed and scared him. This experience solidified the movie's impact. - Bill Simmons

  • Kyle lobbying for 'Out for Justice' as a Rewatchables movie for five years - Kyle reveals his long-standing passion for the film, stating he has been pushing for it to be covered on The Rewatchables since his very first appearance on the podcast in 2020. - Kyle Brandt

funny moments

  • Kyle's violent fantasy post-draft energy after watching Seagal - Kyle humorously exaggerates his post-viewing adrenaline, claiming he walked around his neighborhood 'just hitting people in the face with a cue ball and a towel.' (Humorous exaggeration, character role-play) - Kyle Brandt

  • Seagal's absurd Italian accent and character choices - Bill and Kyle repeatedly mock Seagal's inconsistent and over-the-top accent, comparing it to 'Roberto Benigni meets Chef Boyardee with like some Super Mario.' The image of a Brooklyn-native William Forsyth receiving accent pointers from Seagal is a particular highlight. (Observational humor, absurdity) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • The 'whose hot dog is this?' ad-lib in the pool hall scene - Both hosts erupt in laughter discussing this bizarre, unscripted moment where Seagal picks up a hot dog from a roller grill and demands to know its owner before tossing it. (Absurdist humor, observational) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • The Chewbacca bowel movement discussion - Prompted by Bill asking if Chewbacca had an anus, Kyle enthusiastically and graphically speculates about Chewbacca taking 'disgusting, huge Wookie shits' on the Millennium Falcon, citing Chewy's eating habits as evidence. (Gross-out humor, absurd speculation) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • Seagal kicking his son in the ass - The hosts ridicule a scene where Seagal's character casually kicks his young son in the butt as a form of interaction, highlighting how unnatural and disconnected Seagal seems from depicting normal father-son relationships. (Observational humor, absurdity) - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • Seagal's running form - Bill and Craig describe Seagal's unique and hilariously awkward running style, likening it to a 'bobblehead' and noting his strange hand movements. (Observational, physical humor) - Bill Simmons, Craig Horlbeck

rewatch experiences

  • Bill watching 'Out for Justice' twice in four days for the podcast - Bill admits to his 'sickness' for rewatching the movie, stating he watched it twice in the lead-up to the episode, even though he could have 'cut corners,' indicating a genuine rekindling of his love for the film. - Bill Simmons

  • Kyle's extensive history of rewatching 'Out for Justice' on cable - Kyle states he has seen the movie 'a bunch of times on cable' over the past two decades, solidifying its status as a personal rewatchable classic for him. - Kyle Brandt

  • Enduring enjoyment of the pool hall scene after countless viewings - Bill declares the 'Has anyone seen Richie?' pool hall scene his 'favorite movie scene ever made,' emphasizing that he is 'riveted every single time' he watches it, despite having seen it numerous times. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

catchphrase discussions

  • 'Has anyone seen Richie?' - Highlighted as Steven Seagal's signature line, compared to Arnold Schwarzenegger's 'I'll be back'. Kyle notes it's a line people yell at Seagal in public, even in the presence of Vladimir Putin, demonstrating its iconic status. - Kyle Brandt, Bill Simmons

  • 'I can still get it wet' and 'You were never that good.' - This crude and memorable dialogue exchange between Gino (Seagal) and Patty (Gina Gershon) is discussed for its shocking nature and unintentional comedic effect, with Bill calling it 'vile' and Kyle finding it hilarious. - Bill Simmons, Kyle Brandt

  • 'There ain't nobody upstairs.' - A line delivered by Seagal after shooting rounds into a ceiling, which Bill finds laugh-out-loud funny in its deadpan delivery and unexpected punchline within the context of the scene. - Bill Simmons

  • 'No pussy since 1969.' - A memorable and absurd line delivered by a side character in a wheelchair, which Kyle cites as always making him laugh due to its unexpected and dark humor. - Kyle Brandt

  • 'Madon, madon.' - Seagal's comically mangled pronunciation of a common Italian exclamation, which Bill points out as a small, amusing detail that showcases Seagal's forced Italian affectations. - Bill Simmons

  • 'You got the mitt, I got the ball, you got the bat. Let's go.' - The hosts ridicule this clunky and inauthentic line from the baseball scene, emphasizing its bad acting and how clearly out of touch Seagal seemed with playing sports. - Bill Simmons

  • 'What the fuck is the ribbon for?' / 'I'm trying to dry your eyes upwards. So when you say you're looking at my ribbon and you're really looking at my tits.' - This quick-witted and bold exchange between Seagal and Shannon Wurry is recounted as a legendary moment where Wurry's humor allegedly earned Seagal's respect, highlighting the unique dynamics on set. - Kyle Brandt

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